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When Graham wrote his blog post “SEO and Apostrophes: A Copywriter’s Tale”, it was in response to an office debate he had been having with me in recent weeks, regarding the use of apostrophes on websites. The whole reason the post was written was because I was of the opinion that for SEO purposes it is acceptable to drop the odd apostrophe for keyword targeting purposes, and the search volumes are certainly in my favour there. The example used by Graham showed that 33,100 people search for “Mens Clothing” on average per month, while just 12 search for “men’s clothing”, with the apostrophe.

My opinion has always been to target what people are looking for, and while I’m not one of these who thinks grammar should be done away with completely for SEO purposes, I sometimes think rules like this could be relaxed a bit. It is generally my thought process that it doesn’t change the meaning of the word by leaving the apostrophe out of “Mens”.

However, reading Graham’s post swayed me to do some further research into apostrophes in SEO, after his impassioned and stoic stance on the issue made me doubt myself a little bit...

Keyword Tests - With and Without Apostrophes

Graham showed rankings for a couple of test phrases to prove his point, and I am happy to take that a little further as the only way to win or lose an argument is by statistics, and his are compelling at face value.

I’m not going to launch into a full scale test on this as that would be very time consuming, and I am also not saying that I’m completely right, as I know I’m not. However, I have found a few select examples to back up my point. Green means with apostrophe, red is without.

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Basically, the first table shows that a website NOT using apostrophes ranks number 1 for the higher volume version of the keyword without the apostrophe (BooHoo), and a different website ranks number 1 for the infinitely less competitive version that does use the apostrophe (Missguided).

Now, I know there could be hundreds of different ranking factors, and this is mainly based on meta titles as there is no real text on those pages, but what if Missguided were to change their meta and content to remove the apostrophe and then jump to number 1? If I was their SEO consultant I would certainly advocate giving that a try.

The second table shows Peacocks rising from 7 to 2 in the search with the apostrophe. While others that do use apostrophes (including heavyweights ASOS) drop, Peacocks rise, which shows they have some weight behind their website. I do wonder if they started targeting the non-apostrophe version, whether they would increase their rankings in the higher volume keyword….

Again, all of this is conjecture and is of course based on one ranking factor. At best, it is a very flimsy argument, but SEO is all about trying what you think will work to bring your client sales.

Conclusion

What I am trying to say is that I do completely understand Graham’s point that there are grammatically “correct” and grammatically “incorrect” rules. HOWEVER, in a case such as Missguided’s and Peacocks’, I would certainly be willing to sacrifice that in an attempt to raise their ranking to #1. For a keyword with this high volume there could be hundreds more visitors per month by moving from #2 to #1, which could equate to hundreds, if not thousands, more pounds of revenue. Now, hypothetically imagine this situation across each category of the website.

Basically, what I am saying is that sometimes a decision has to be made between grammar and money, and I would expect that usually the client would be likely to go for grammatically incorrect meta and content in order to generate some more money (unless they too were a stickler for grammar). 

All cases have to be taken on their individual merits. However, as an SEO consultant I would probably find it difficult to let a situation like the examples above lie  – whether that is right or not, I haven’t yet decided…

Discussion

Posted by Kirk Vang on
"Basically, what I am saying is that sometimes a decision has to be made between grammar and money, and I would expect that usually the client would be likely to go for grammatically incorrect meta and content in order to generate some more money (unless they too were a stickler for grammar)."

Money is more important than language. How depressing. This whole society's going down the toilet if you ask me.
Posted by Graham on
Just a couple of points from me (sorry!):

1. "The example used by Graham showed that 33,100 people search for “Mens Clothing” on average per month, while just 12 search for “men’s clothing”, with the apostrophe." - I did put that in my post, yes, but I went on to say that because a website optimised for the incorrect version can still rank on the first page (yes, the site might move up or down by a couple of places depending on which one you search for), it suggests Google looks at both versions in the same way. So if that's the case, it surely doesn't matter about the difference in search volume?

2. Misguided is optimised for the version with apostrophes. It is number one for 'women's clothing' and number two for 'womens clothing'. So why should it now drop the apostrophe? Its image as a firm that can spell and understand IMPORTANT grammatical rules is intact (but it seems no one really cares about this anymore anyway), and it's number two on the SERP. That, to me anyway, is better than dropping the apostrophe and being number one for 'womens clothing'.

That's it... for now.
Posted by Mindy on
Stats show that anywhere from 25-50% of clicks go to the first organic result, with the number of people clicking on #2 dropping to under 15%. If this is an accurate statistic (and I'm struggling to find a different statistic at the moment), then having that number 1 listing can more than double the number of visitors - so it is important to do everything in our power to get that #1 spot for a high volume keyword - especially if it will also drive sales.

From a client perspective, if the choice is between #1 or #2 based on a simple apostrophe in the element, I'd get rid of the apostrophe - and I'm a terrible grammar pedant.
Posted by Dave Ashworth on
I agree that you should optimise for the highest volume phrase and maybe mix up your link building efforts to target both phrases. Or include the higher volume phrase in the title tag and the lower in the content.

Anyway, at the time of writing, Missguided ranks #1 for "womens clothing":
http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=womens+clothing

Google asks me if I meant "women's clothing", so I click on that link, and Missguided are #1 for that too:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=womens+clothing#hl=en&sa=X&ei=4tlxTse2Ooy5hAfWw9HCCQ&ved=0CGMQBSgA&q=women's+clothing&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=56b4e783c9a110ac&biw=1680&bih=935

Boo Hoo are at 2 for both!
Posted by Nick Stamoulis on
It's an interesting debate. It makes sense from an optimization standpoint to not include the apostrophe, but not from a branding standpoint. Even though people are lazy and type "womens clothing" into their browser, they don't expect to see "womens clothing" on the content of the page. It looks unprofessional.
Posted by William Baginsky on
I'm sorry that this is giving Graham a headache but very heartened that it is. The way we use language, including apostrophes, changes all the time to adapt to circumstances. It matters that apostrophes should be used according to convention in books, newspapers, websites, signs and other public writing - not least because it shows that we care about what and how we communicate with other people. But searching on the web is private and needs to be quick - we are communicating with machines, not people - so I think we have to be pragmatic about the way that people do this. Irritating as it is, attempting to resist the tide will, I fear, lead to a headache, much like the one I imagine Canute had.
Posted by Emma Welsby on
I worked as an SEO for Missguided for a short while and at that particular point when I was looking at the traffic that was driven for 'womens clothing' it was much larger than 'women's clothing'. I'm sure this is still the case now. Look at their home page title tag - "Women's Clothing" - the lower volume keyword.

I personally believe that Google will pick up 'womens clothing' and 'women's clothing' relevance from a title tag that just has "women's clothing' included. It's going to be slightly easier to gain visibility for the version with the apostrophe as the keyword is going to be slightly less competitive so it is therefore worth optimising for this as there will still be sales driven from this. A spot of link building for both versions will help the rankings and also help make your backlink profile look natural. Win win.

Google users do need to be presented with relevant information to their search, if it means you optimise for the grammatically incorrect version of a phrase then so be it. An SEO's job is to present people with what they are looking for and if optimising for the grammatically incorrect version is what is necessary then so be it. For all those out there who think this is terrible that we do this I ask you - is it much fun surfing in a grammatically correct manner that in some cases will give terrible website results?
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